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Amendments

Posted on: April 7, 2008 6:32 pm
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Constitutional Amendments...might we at sportsline do better?  I'll present the Amendments in no particular order, or...more to the point...in whatever order arbitrarily suits me.  Thusly:

Amendment 3 - Cruel and Unusual Punishment:

Excessive bail shall not be required, not excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

 


 

I will start by saying that I understand...and agree with...prohibitions against cruel punishments.  If we have not yet managed to move firmly to whatever moral high ground prohibits "burning at the stake" or "flaying alive" then we clearly lack the wherewithal to make the fine distinctions required for full appreciation of this amendment.

But what about "unusual" punishment?  Should we be confined in those ways?  Why prohibit punitive measures distinguished only by their ingenuity?  Do any of you have uncommon suggestions which would avoid the "cruelty" concerns...while still allowing some degree of creativity?

Please...try to take this seriously.  If you can't manage that...do try to be entertaining.

 

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tundrajaz
Since: Feb 12, 2008
Posted on: April 9, 2008 8:44 pm
 

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Corvid,

"Hibernal hell" is an appropriate way to put it.  We consider ourselves luckey that we do not live in Watertown and the Tug Hill area though.  Now they really get snow.  Our stuff is a walk in the park, in comparison.



corvidgirl
Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: April 9, 2008 10:52 am
 

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Great point about our Rochester winters.  We'd just freeze 'em out. 

 

Tundra,

My cousin has lived in Rochester for many years.  He loves the town and considers it home.  However, I do get the impression...when talking to him about the weather...that he believes the phrase "lake effect snow" does not do justice to the hibernal hell which is occasionally on offer.

 



tundrajaz
Since: Feb 12, 2008
Posted on: April 9, 2008 8:35 am
 

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Great point about our Rochester winters.  We'd just freeze 'em out. 


corvidgirl
Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: April 8, 2008 8:29 pm
 

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War is hell, especially on the civilian populations where the war is being fought. Just ask the Okinawans.

Quite right Biffer...you damned Yankee...I shouldn't have made light of it.  But that was sort of my point really.  If we were ever to find ourselves fighting a war on our home soil, quartering some US soldiers would be the least of our worries.

(B-ball game's ready to start.  Go Vols!)

 



BufordBiffer
Since: Mar 1, 2007
Posted on: April 8, 2008 8:18 pm
 

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The most likely event leading to the civil population being forced to house and quarter soldiers would be in the event of civil war. It did happen during the last civil war. Mostly Union making themselves "at home" in the houses of the South and border states for the most part. During the battle of Gettysburg both commands were able to find "friendly" quarters on farm houses on both sides of the battle lines. It was pretty much the same in every major battle fought during the civil war.

There is still some animosity from southerners towards us "Yankees" when we speak of such things as Shermans' march through Georgia. Whether the brazen ransacking and looting really took place to the degrees they are often asserted is not relevant. To most southerners the real offense was that the Union army trespassed and commandered private property for their own uses. Basically it boils down to the army, whichever army it is, red or white, showing no respect to the land rights of private property owners.

War is hell, especially on the civilian populations where the war is being fought. Just ask the Okinawans.


corvidgirl
Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: April 8, 2008 8:11 pm
 

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Tundra,

I bet they'd get much more than they bargained for wherever they land.  We're not a passive people.  On the other hand, in Rochester, you'll just have to wait for winter...problem solved.

 

 



tundrajaz
Since: Feb 12, 2008
Posted on: April 8, 2008 7:44 pm
 

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Corvid,

I can assure you that, if enemy soldiers started marching down my street, being an avid hunter (and I realize hunting may be an objectionable to many so we wont get into that here) and outdoorsman, such as I am, they would get much more than they bargained for from me.



corvidgirl
Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: April 8, 2008 7:19 pm
 

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Only bad things could happen. Who would we be housing ? The good guys ? The bad guys?  Whos side are you on ?

Fair questions Biffer.  Now, I believe I did say I'd be setting up cots for our soldiers.  You know, I might be tempted to suggest you were getting a bit overly exercised about the 3rd Amendment.  But, I just read your post on JD's dream blog...which probably explains your reaction.  Thousands of zeppelins...and "the Mongol horde"?  Pretty much puts my "OMG!!!!  I forgot to attend a class" nightmare into perspective.

 



BufordBiffer
Since: Mar 1, 2007
Posted on: April 8, 2008 6:52 pm
 

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No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

I am afraid if this were to occur all that we know as a republic would be lost forever.

It would require a monumental disaster (Nuclear War) or an unbridled usuroing of civil law.

Only bad things could happen. Who would we be housing ? The good guys ? The bad guys?  Whos side are you on ?


corvidgirl
Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: April 8, 2008 6:51 pm
 

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Button...I've spent a fair amount of time on that site.  You're right, they do make some good points.  I'd also like to say that you're a stand up guy for linking to it.

Well done.

Corv

 



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